Former presidential candidate Dr. Jill Stein is continuing her efforts to force recounts in three states – Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan – saying that electronic voting invites tampering, hacking and human error.

On Tuesday the effort faced a setback as a Wisconsin judge refused to order a statewide hand recount. Instead, the judge ruled that each of the state’s 72 county clerks can decide on their own how to carry out the recount.

Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin by less than 30,000 votes out of 2.8 million cast. The result was even closer in Michigan, where Trump won by just 12,000 votes. Stein is expected to file paperwork in Michigan by today’s deadline to request a recount there. More than 130,000 people have donated more than $6.5 million Stein’s efforts—that’s nearly double how much Stein raised during her presidential effort.

At this link you can find the complete transcript of the conversation between Jill Stein and the journalist Amy Goodman of Democracy Now!