{"id":854698,"date":"2019-05-12T23:35:09","date_gmt":"2019-05-12T22:35:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pressenza.com\/?p=854698"},"modified":"2019-08-10T15:18:02","modified_gmt":"2019-08-10T14:18:02","slug":"nous-sommes-dans-une-phase-de-rigidification-les-ferments-de-changement-cherchent-a-sexprimer-francois-pellegrini","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pressenza.com\/fr\/2019\/05\/nous-sommes-dans-une-phase-de-rigidification-les-ferments-de-changement-cherchent-a-sexprimer-francois-pellegrini\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00ab Nous sommes dans une phase de rigidification, les ferments de changement cherchent \u00e0 s\u2019exprimer \u00bb, Fran\u00e7ois Pellegrini"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>Samedi 27 avril, Pressenza Francophone a organis\u00e9 un \u00e9v\u00e9nement \u00e0 Bordeaux, au cin\u00e9ma Utopia, pour les 10 ann\u00e9es d\u2019existence de l\u2019agence.<\/p>\n<p>Suite \u00e0 la projection de film de Flore Vasseur \u00ab Meeting Snowden \u00bb et au d\u00e9bat, nous avons interview\u00e9 Fran\u00e7ois PELLEGRINI, professeur \u00e0 l&rsquo;Universit\u00e9 de Bordeaux.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Interview Franc\u0327ois Pellegrini\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/FaKM2fRp5BI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Jean-Marc DUNET<\/strong>\u00a0: On vient de visionner le film \u00ab\u00a0Meeting Snowden\u00a0\u00bb, il y a beaucoup de choses dans ce film\u00a0: libert\u00e9 de la presse, libert\u00e9 des m\u00e9dias, libert\u00e9 d\u2019informer, droit de savoir, lanceurs d\u2019alerte, d\u00e9mocratie\u00a0; comment mets tu ces \u00e9l\u00e9ments en relation\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fran\u00e7ois PELLEGRINI\u00a0<\/strong>: Je pense qu\u2019ils sont intimement li\u00e9s. D\u2019abord je tiens \u00e0 dire que c\u2019est vraiment un tr\u00e8s beau film, parce que c\u2019est \u00e0 la fois un film intimiste, et qui ouvre les fen\u00eatres sur le monde entier. Et la conversation finale de Snowden, o\u00f9 il parle de ce que c\u2019est qu\u2019\u00eatre humain, est aussi un point d\u2019orgue qui apaise. Comme cela a \u00e9t\u00e9 dit pendant le d\u00e9bat, c\u2019\u00e9tait \u00e0 la fois un film qui r\u00e9v\u00e8le des choses inqui\u00e9tantes, mais qui donne de l\u2019espoir parce qu\u2019effectivement n\u2019importe qui, n\u2019importe quel humain, \u00e0 un moment donn\u00e9 peut dire : non, le monde dans lequel on vit ne me pla\u00eet pas et je d\u00e9cide, moi, d\u2019agir, sans garantie de succ\u00e8s, simplement parce que ne pas agir est pour moi plus atroce qu\u2019agir.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JMD<\/strong>\u00a0: On disait que les choses \u00e9voluent rapidement, que ce qui se passe maintenant n\u2019\u00e9tait pas pr\u00e9visible il y a quelques ann\u00e9es. Est ce que tu peux d\u00e9cerner une tendance qui donne espoir\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p><strong>FP<\/strong>\u00a0: Je ne sais pas si maintenant on est dans cette dynamique d\u2019espoir. Ce que je peux dire c\u2019est qu\u2019on est dans une situation qui est critique avec une rigidification des structures en place et une tendance au contr\u00f4le g\u00e9n\u00e9ralis\u00e9. Et chaque fois que cela s\u2019est vu dans l\u2019histoire, c\u2019\u00e9tait parce que bouillait sous la marmite des volont\u00e9s de changement. Une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9volue par nature, l\u00e0 aussi c\u2019est dit dans le documentaire, la vie c\u2019est dynamique et donc toute soci\u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9volue\u00a0; une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 qui cherche \u00e0 ne pas \u00e9voluer est une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 qui se condamne. Finalement ce qui appara\u00eet dans le documentaire c\u2019est qu\u2019on est dans une phase de rigidification, et que les ferments de changement cherchent \u00e0 s\u2019exprimer. Ce qu\u2019il faut c\u2019est que justement cela ne se fasse pas trop par la violence.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JMD<\/strong>\u00a0: Et cela tu le vois \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9chelle plan\u00e9taire\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p><strong>FP<\/strong>\u00a0: Oui, bien s\u00fbr. On a pu citer le printemps arabe, on peut voir ce qu\u2019il se passe en Alg\u00e9rie, \u00e0 chaque fois finalement l\u2019humain est plac\u00e9 face aux m\u00eames n\u00e9cessit\u00e9s et aux m\u00eames dynamiques soci\u00e9tales. Donc oui, cela se voit, maintenant qu\u2019on est dans un monde de plus en plus connect\u00e9 il est facile pour les gens de voir ce qui se passe ailleurs. Ce qui n\u00e9cessite d\u2019ailleurs l\u2019acc\u00e8s aux r\u00e9seaux num\u00e9riques, et de le garantir. Mais l\u2019information trouve un moyen de circuler et \u00e0 un moment donn\u00e9 elle peut faire t\u00e2che d\u2019huile et faire en sorte que des gens d\u00e9cident de passer \u00e0 l\u2019action, parce que c\u2019\u00e9tait la petite \u00e9tincelle qui leur manquait.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Nous remercions Fran\u00e7ois Pellegrini pour sa participation au d\u00e9bat et \u00e0 cette interview.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Plus d\u2019information sur les \u00e9v\u00e9nements Pressenza 10 ans \u00e0 Bordeaux :<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>1\/ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pressenza.com\/fr\/2019\/04\/10-ans-pressenza-bordeaux-expo-photo-et-projection-debat\/\">[10 ans Pressenza \u2013 Bordeaux] Expo photo et projection d\u00e9bat<\/a><\/p>\n<p>2\/ Interview :\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pressenza.com\/fr\/2019\/05\/nous-sommes-dans-une-phase-de-rigidification-les-ferments-de-changement-cherchent-a-sexprimer-francois-pellegrini\/\">\u00ab Nous sommes dans une phase de rigidification, les ferments de changement cherchent \u00e0 s\u2019exprimer \u00bb, Fran\u00e7ois Pellegrini<\/a><\/p>\n<p>3\/ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pressenza.com\/fr\/2019\/05\/acces-du-citoyen-a-linformation-interview-de-patrick-maupin-de-greenpeace\/\">Acc\u00e8s du citoyen \u00e0 l\u2019information : interview de Patrick Maupin, de Greenpeace<\/a><\/p>\n<p>4\/ Interview : <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pressenza.com\/fr\/2019\/06\/korbak-daquilenet-internet-un-outil-democratique\/\">Korbak, d\u2019Aquilenet\u00a0: internet, un outil d\u00e9mocratique<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Samedi 27 avril, Pressenza Francophone a organis\u00e9 un \u00e9v\u00e9nement \u00e0 Bordeaux, au cin\u00e9ma Utopia, pour les 10 ann\u00e9es d\u2019existence de l\u2019agence. 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