{"id":684490,"date":"2018-08-01T10:36:44","date_gmt":"2018-08-01T09:36:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pressenza.com\/?p=684490"},"modified":"2018-08-01T08:10:05","modified_gmt":"2018-08-01T07:10:05","slug":"__trashed-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pressenza.com\/fr\/2018\/08\/__trashed-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Philippe Van Parijs\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0La plus grande objection \u00e0 un revenu de base est d&rsquo;ordre moral\u00a0\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Nous publions ici l&rsquo;interview compl\u00e8te du philosophe et \u00e9conomiste Philippe van Parijs, effectu\u00e9e pour le documentaire <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/60PcKrrM9zE\">RBUI notre droit de vivre<\/a> par le r\u00e9alisateur \u00c1lvaro Or\u00fas. Ce documentaire a \u00e9t\u00e9 soutenu par les &lsquo;Humanistes pour un revenu de base universel&rsquo; et par notre agence Pressenza.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Selon Van Parijs, la plus grande objection au RBUI (*) n&rsquo;est pas \u00e9conomique, mais morale, et provient \u00e0 la fois de la droite et de la gauche. \u00ab\u00a0Nous avons besoin d&rsquo;un argument moral fort qui d\u00e9fend la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 d&rsquo;un RBUI&#8230; La valeur derri\u00e8re le revenu de base est donc la justice, et non la charit\u00e9 ou la solidarit\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Video: \u00c1lvaro Or\u00fas<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Philippe van Parijs\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/PNqgP1MFlaY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Voici un r\u00e9sum\u00e9 de cette interview. La possibilit\u00e9 pour la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 d&rsquo;accorder un revenu \u00e0 des personnes qui ne font aucun effort pour le recevoir est consid\u00e9r\u00e9e comme moralement r\u00e9pr\u00e9hensible par de larges pans de la droite et de la gauche. Mais si nous regardons le RBUI un peu plus en d\u00e9tail, nous pouvons voir que cela correspond \u00e0 une troisi\u00e8me g\u00e9n\u00e9ration de subventions sociales : la premi\u00e8re est apparue dans certaines villes flamandes et allemandes au 17\u00e8me si\u00e8cle et \u00e9tait exclusivement une aide pour les pauvres ; la deuxi\u00e8me a \u00e9t\u00e9 institu\u00e9e par Bismarck en Allemagne et avait le caract\u00e8re de solidarit\u00e9 entre travailleurs ; et la troisi\u00e8me g\u00e9n\u00e9ration de revenus sociaux, \u00e0 laquelle appartient le RBUI, consid\u00e8re ces revenus comme un dividende pour la richesse sociale accumul\u00e9e sur plusieurs g\u00e9n\u00e9rations et qui devrait donc \u00eatre distribu\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;ensemble de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9. La valeur derri\u00e8re le RBUI est donc la justice, et non la charit\u00e9 ou la solidarit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Quant \u00e0 la viabilit\u00e9 \u00e9conomique du RBUI, au niveau national, cela n&rsquo;est possible que si le syst\u00e8me fiscal est r\u00e9form\u00e9 et rendu plus progressif, avec plus d&rsquo;imp\u00f4ts pay\u00e9s par ceux qui gagnent plus et l&rsquo;abolition de toutes les exon\u00e9rations fiscales dont b\u00e9n\u00e9ficient les entreprises. Et au niveau europ\u00e9en, le financement pourrait \u00eatre assur\u00e9 par la TVA, mais cette taxe devrait \u00eatre uniformis\u00e9e dans toute l&rsquo;Union europ\u00e9enne, car tenter d&rsquo;harmoniser l&rsquo;imp\u00f4t sur le revenu des personnes physiques est pratiquement impossible en raison des \u00e9normes diff\u00e9rences entre les pays. Mais d&rsquo;autres formes de financement du RBUI ne doivent pas \u00eatre exclues, comme l&rsquo;imposition des b\u00e9n\u00e9fices des grandes entreprises (dont les taux d&rsquo;imposition sont encore tr\u00e8s inf\u00e9rieurs \u00e0 ceux de la TVA, par exemple), ou des transactions financi\u00e8res, ou des \u00e9missions de carbone, bien que ces formes de financement compl\u00e9mentaires, dans l&rsquo;\u00e9tat actuel des choses, apporteraient peu de fonds par rapport \u00e0 la TVA ou \u00e0 l&rsquo;imp\u00f4t sur le revenu des personnes physiques.<\/p>\n<p>Le RBUI est maintenant soutenu \u00e0 la fois par la gauche et la droite, ce qui am\u00e8ne d&rsquo;autres personnes des deux c\u00f4t\u00e9s \u00e0 prendre position contre lui, uniquement parce que l&rsquo;id\u00e9e est d\u00e9fendue par ses \u00ab\u00a0ennemis\u00a0\u00bb. Cependant, sa capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 d\u00e9gager un consensus dans tous les secteurs de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9, comme ce fut le cas pour la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale (qui \u00e9tait soutenue par les employeurs, qui y voyaient un moyen d&rsquo;am\u00e9liorer les performances de leurs travailleurs), fait du RBUI une id\u00e9e valable pour le 21\u00e8me si\u00e8cle. Le RBUI donne la libert\u00e9 \u00e0 ceux qui le re\u00e7oivent, parce qu&rsquo;il leur permet de choisir leur emploi et la fa\u00e7on d&rsquo;occuper leur temps, sans que personne ne leur dise quoi faire ; c&rsquo;est pourquoi les lib\u00e9raux peuvent le soutenir, puisque l&rsquo;ing\u00e9rence de l&rsquo;\u00c9tat est moindre, et aussi les progressistes de gauche peuvent le soutenir, parce qu&rsquo;il donne \u00e0 chacun la possibilit\u00e9 de choisir, pas seulement aux riches.<\/p>\n<p>\u00ab\u00a0Je suis venu \u00e0 cette id\u00e9e du RBUI au d\u00e9but des ann\u00e9es 1980, explique Van Parij, lorsque le ch\u00f4mage a commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 devenir massif et qu&rsquo;il \u00e9tait cens\u00e9 \u00eatre combattu par l&rsquo;augmentation incessante de la production, une proposition \u00e9cologiquement insoutenable, ou par la vieille recette de la propri\u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9tatique des moyens de production, qui, dans le socialisme r\u00e9el, a mis fin \u00e0 la libert\u00e9 et n&rsquo;a pas permis la fin des in\u00e9galit\u00e9s. Le RBUI offrait une alternative au n\u00e9olib\u00e9ralisme et au socialisme d&rsquo;\u00c9tat, parce qu&rsquo;il permettait aux gens de se lib\u00e9rer \u00e0 la fois de l&rsquo;assujettissement au march\u00e9 et de la soumission \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00c9tat, il \u00e9tait compatible avec le respect de l&rsquo;environnement et tr\u00e8s radical et inspirant, il promettait une utopie pour l&rsquo;avenir dont les gens se passionnaient\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Traduit de l&rsquo;anglais par la r\u00e9daction francophone<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(*) RBUI : revenu de base universel inconditionnel<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nous publions ici l&rsquo;interview compl\u00e8te du philosophe et \u00e9conomiste Philippe van Parijs, effectu\u00e9e pour le documentaire RBUI notre droit de vivre par le r\u00e9alisateur \u00c1lvaro Or\u00fas. Ce documentaire a \u00e9t\u00e9 soutenu par les &lsquo;Humanistes pour un revenu de base universel&rsquo;&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":188,"featured_media":683474,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11386,98,100,40,156],"tags":[31121,48512,40534,34864,28352],"class_list":["post-684490","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-contenu-original","category-droits-de-lhomme","category-economie","category-international-fr","category-interview-fr","tag-alvaro-orus-fr","tag-humanistes-pour-un-revenu-de-base-universel","tag-philippe-van-parijs","tag-rbui","tag-revenu-de-base-universel"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Philippe Van Parijs\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0La plus grande objection \u00e0 un revenu de base est 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