{"id":1728746,"date":"2023-03-29T16:19:30","date_gmt":"2023-03-29T15:19:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pressenza.com\/?p=1728746"},"modified":"2023-04-05T06:51:58","modified_gmt":"2023-04-05T05:51:58","slug":"la-question-dun-accord-pour-lukraine-nest-pas-une-question","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pressenza.com\/fr\/2023\/03\/la-question-dun-accord-pour-lukraine-nest-pas-une-question\/","title":{"rendered":"La question d&rsquo;un accord pour l&rsquo;Ukraine n&rsquo;est pas une question"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>La question d\u2019un accord pour l\u2019Ukraine ne se pose pas et ce, pour deux raisons. La premi\u00e8re\u00a0: les parties menant la guerre veulent qu\u2019elle continue. La deuxi\u00e8me\u00a0: si elles \u00e9taient pr\u00eates \u00e0 conclure un accord, chacun sait de chaque c\u00f4t\u00e9 exactement (ou presque), \u00e0 quoi il devrait ressembler, et il en a toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 ainsi. T\u00f4t ou tard, il faudra s\u2019y r\u00e9signer sinon, ce sera la fin du monde. (Oui, je suis conscient qu\u2019apr\u00e8s l\u2019apocalypse nucl\u00e9aire, il y aura encore un rocher auquel s\u2019accrocheront quelques cafards\u00a0; seulement cela ne m\u2019int\u00e9resse pas particuli\u00e8rement.)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Si nous regardons le trait\u00e9 de Minsk II qui \u00e9tait en vigueur avant la guerre et dont le respect aurait \u00e9vit\u00e9 la guerre, ou les propositions qu\u2019a faites la Russie peu avant son invasion, ou celle de l\u2019Italie de l\u2019ann\u00e9e derni\u00e8re (ici), ou la proposition que la Chine a faite r\u00e9cemment ou encore les propositions des \u00ab\u00a0Stink Tanks\u00a0\u00bb bellicistes aux \u00c9tats-Unis comme <a href=\"https:\/\/time.com\/6159799\/ukraine-russia-peace-plan\/\">Brookings<\/a> et le <a href=\"https:\/\/nationalinterest.org\/feature\/proposed-peace-plan-end-russo-ukrainian-war-203009\">Center for the National Interest<\/a>, nous constatons qu\u2019elles ont toutes en commun les points suivants\u00a0:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cessez-le-feu<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Retrait de toutes les forces arm\u00e9es \u00e9trang\u00e8res de l\u2019Ukraine.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(Seule la Chine ne l\u2019\u00e9voque pas explicitement, alors qu&rsquo;elle\u00a0 cite des principes fondamentaux qui l&rsquo;exigent).<\/p>\n<p><strong>L\u2019Ukraine est neutre\/n\u2019est pas membre de l\u2019OTAN <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(Seul Minsk II ne l\u2019\u00e9voque pas, tandis que la Chine l\u2019exprime \u00e0 sa fa\u00e7on, qui est vague.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Importante autonomie pour les habitants de la Crim\u00e9e et du Donbass, afin qu\u2019ils puissent s\u2019administrer comme bon leur semble.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(Seules la Russie et la Chine n\u2019en parlent pas, et Minsk II n\u2019\u00e9voque pas la Crim\u00e9e\u00a0; l\u2019Italie dit que ces r\u00e9gions autonomes feront partie de l\u2019Ukraine, tandis que les Think Tanks et Minsk II disent que le Donbass fera partie de l\u2019Ukraine et les Think Tanks que la Crim\u00e9e fera partie de la Russie. Le National Interest sugg\u00e8re que Louhansk et Donetsk d\u00e9lib\u00e8rent sur leur destin et s\u2019ils ne le disent pas pour la Crim\u00e9e, c\u2019est parce que la Crim\u00e9e a d\u00e9j\u00e0 vot\u00e9 et qu\u2019absolument tout le monde sait comment elle voterait si le vote \u00e9tait \u00e0 refaire).<\/p>\n<p><strong>D\u00e9militarisation<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(M\u00eame si les d\u00e9tails varient, tous sont d\u2019accord pour dire que le haut niveau d\u2019armement, de troupes et de pr\u00e9paratifs de guerre dans la r\u00e9gion doit \u00eatre r\u00e9duit).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fin des sanctions<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(Uniquement dans les deux propositions qui ont pr\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9 les r\u00e9centes sanctions contre la Russie, la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 de cesser les sanctions unilat\u00e9rales n\u2019est pas \u00e9voqu\u00e9e.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c9tat de droit<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(Tout le monde est d\u2019accord, seulement avec des diff\u00e9rences dans les d\u00e9tails et des hypocrisies que l\u2019\u00c9tat de droit international et les Nations unies doivent \u00eatre renforc\u00e9s \u2013 \u00e0 l\u2019exception des int\u00e9r\u00eats nationaux).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Relations pacifiques<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(Tous s\u2019accordent pour dire que des relations pacifiques et diplomatiques doivent \u00eatre \u00e9tablies et qu\u2019il faut apporter de l\u2019aide humanitaire, et que, en d\u2019autres termes, un processus de v\u00e9rit\u00e9 et de r\u00e9conciliation doit \u00eatre mis en place.)<\/p>\n<p>Le fait que l&rsquo;esquisse d\u2019un accord, \u00e9voqu\u00e9e ci-dessus, est connue de tous est \u00e9galement soulign\u00e9 par le fait que l\u2019Ukraine et la Russie en mars 2022 s\u2019\u00e9taient pratiquement accord\u00e9es, avant que les \u00c9tats-Unis et le Royaume-Uni exercent une pression sur l\u2019Ukraine pour qu\u2019elle continue la guerre.<\/p>\n<p>Voici un extrait du livre de Medea Benjamin et de Nicolas Davies, <em>War in Ukraine: Making Sense of a Senseless Conflict (le sens d\u2019un conflit insens\u00e9<\/em>)\u00a0:<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab\u00a0Le 10 mars, les ministres des Affaire \u00e9trang\u00e8res de la Russie et de l\u2019Ukraine se sont rencontr\u00e9s \u00e0 Antalya, en Turquie, gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 la m\u00e9diation du ministre turc des Affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res Mevl\u00fct \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu. Ces entretiens ont \u00e9t\u00e9 poursuivis par visioconf\u00e9rence du 14 au 17 mars, Isra<\/em><em>\u00eb<\/em><em>l \u00e9tant entr\u00e9 en lice comme second m\u00e9diateur, et d\u00e9bouch\u00e8rent sur un plan de 15 points que Zelensky qualifia de \u00ab plus r\u00e9aliste \u00bb que les pr\u00e9c\u00e9dentes propositions. Les points essentiels du plan \u00e9taient un cessez-le-feu et le retrait de la Russie ainsi que l\u2019acceptation par l\u2019Ukraine d\u2019un statut de neutralit\u00e9, semblable \u00e0 celui de l\u2019Autriche. En contrepartie de nouvelles garanties de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 d\u2019autres pays, l\u2019Ukraine renoncerait \u00e0 envisager une quelconque admission \u00e0 l\u2019OTAN et promettrait de n\u2019h\u00e9berger aucune installation ou base militaire \u00e9trang\u00e8re. De surcroit, la langue russe serait aussi reconnue comme langue officielle en Ukraine. Pour la Russie, les points sensibles touchaient la nature des garanties de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 et la question de savoir quels seraient les pays les garantissant, comment serait d\u00e9cid\u00e9 l\u2019avenir de la Crim\u00e9e et des deux r\u00e9publiques populaires dans le Donbass. Mais les contours d\u2019un accord de paix \u00e9taient sur la table. \u00bb <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Jusqu\u2019\u00e0 ce qu\u2019ils ne le soient plus. Mais ce n\u2019est pas comme si nous ne savions toujours pas de quoi il s\u2019agit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La question d\u2019un accord pour l\u2019Ukraine ne se pose pas et ce, pour deux raisons. La premi\u00e8re\u00a0: les parties menant la guerre veulent qu\u2019elle continue. La deuxi\u00e8me\u00a0: si elles \u00e9taient pr\u00eates \u00e0 conclure un accord, chacun sait de chaque c\u00f4t\u00e9&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1241,"featured_media":1728747,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[85,1250],"tags":[7345,111423,4304,8005],"class_list":["post-1728746","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-europe-fr","category-paix-desarmement","tag-accord","tag-nato-fr","tag-russie","tag-ukraine-fr"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>La question d&#039;un accord pour l&#039;Ukraine n&#039;est pas une question<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"La question d\u2019un accord pour l\u2019Ukraine ne se pose pas et ce, pour deux raisons. 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